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Correct, but not precise

QUOTE: "British India" did not include the many princely states which continued to be ruled by Indian princes, though by the 19th century under British suzerainty—their defence, foreign relations, and communications relinquished to British authority and their internal rule closely monitored. END OF QUOTE

The above statement is much more true that the original crap that is there in Wikipedia pages.

The truth is that even though the British-Indian government did assure the security of the local kingdom, there was no conceding of sovereignty to British-India by at least some of the major kingdoms. This is very clearly mentioned in Travancore State Manual written by V Nagam Iyya. The issue in this regard was the judicial action on John Liddel, Commercial Agent at Alleppey by the Travancore Judiciary.

With regard to admitting that the local kingdoms were not part of British-India, it must be said that Wikipedia needs to correct the error in this regard that has been placed on various Wikipedia pages by the idiot Indian academic fools. 117.196.31.188 (talk) 07:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't we make British India redirect to British Raj?

This is as the two terms are commonly used interchangeably. Disabled Lemon (talk) 18:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Disabled Lemon: I was going to post here along the same lines. My suggestion was going to be to create disambiguation page with one link to British Raj and another to Presidencies and provinces of British India. The problem is I might not have the time to engage in a full discussion. Later maybe.--Sylvester Millner (talk) 00:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

British rule in India EnTerbury (talk) 01:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EnTerbury: that redirects to British Raj--Sylvester Millner (talk) 00:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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British India == Presidencies and provinces of British India.

British Raj == British India + Princely states. That's the geographic math of it. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 01:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

India

The name of the nation that existed till 1947 seems to be India. Or was British-India the official name? 117.213.3.170 (talk) 23:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly not with the hyphen, and basically no. A complicated question, discussed in 2020 above here, and last year at a more appropriate venue - Talk:British Raj/Archive 12 perhaps? Johnbod (talk) 04:35, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Fowler&fowler, I don't have any stake in what Burma was referred to or what its sovereign status was at the time, I just want to add the link to British rule in Burma so that readers may obtain the relevant historical information on that subtopic. If we disagree, then in the worst case I can add a link to Separation of Burma in the following line: "This arrangement lasted until 1937, when Burma was reorganized as a separate British colony." GreekApple123 (talk) 06:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Fowler&fowler, I don't see anything "heroical" in these pictures, they just show some important moments in the history of British India. If I'm not mistaken, this is an article about the history and geography of British India. -- Tobby72 (talk) 19:03, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not about the history. Only Company rule in India, also called Company Raj, the pre-1857 analog of the British Raj, is. However it has anathematized illustrations that attempt to depict a history long after it occurred. I’m a principal author of this page, the Company rule in India, Indian Rebellion of 1857, British Raj, Partition of India, Dominion of India and India. In other words, I’m an experienced editor and I don’t make these observations lightly. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 20:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]